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1. There is no way of accurately counting back the weeks for thousands of years to determine which day is originallly the seventh, and that was never the in

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What???? Of course there is. Ask any Jew.

Sunday is the day of worship because Constantine (the sun worshipper who kicked off modern christianity) decided SUNday was the day he wanted to worship on.

Also, if it's impossible to determine which day is the sabbath, why don't you simply agree with the Jews to celebrate on Saturday?[/quote]

I agree and I find it obnoxious when people make the claim that we can't know what day it is.

Personally, I consider Constantine to be the biggest corrupter of Christianity ever.

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...it's a sin to light a fire on the Sabbath

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It's a trap! lol, j/k
I know, you want a simple yes or no, but I feel there is more to it than that. To simply say: yes. Really leaves the average person scratching their head. Why, why, why?

The Messiah reveals to us that the purpose was not to enslave us as we had come to believe. God knew we would eventually fall into service without heart. We needed to know just how bad sin was, but we also needed to have our hearts in the right place. Unfortunately, we began doing just what was needed to make sure we weren't punished, but the point was to move beyond that.

Like children growing to adults. When were children our parents punish us to make us understand the rules, but the point is that we learn to do things because its the right thing to do, not because we're going to be punished.

This is because as a society, we can't operate if everyone is just waiting for the moment when they can get away with it. This is the problem legalism produces. We need to do good, because we want to do good not because we fear punishment. God wants our hearts to love him and the things he provided for us such as the Sabbath and Holy Days, not for us to be bound to them like slaves with no choice and hate in their hearts.

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then i'm sure you will have no problem producing a verse from the bible that says as much.

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That's pretty much the entire point of what I've been saying. It is a Holy day. Holy means set apart. We are to sanctify it. Sanctify means set apart for good, essentially.

So every verse calling it holy points to that. Also the very verses in question, have Yeshua making similar points.

The Hebrew word that is translated to Holy is Qodesh. This word is not given proper emphasis when translated into the English Holy because when we think of Holy we think of Pious and Divine.

The short of it is that the Hebrew word and its Greek equivalent are both better translated into a word meaning "separated" or "set apart".

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The Hebrew word qodesh and the equivalent Greek word hagios, together with their derivatives, have been translated with one of three words, or derivatives, in our older English versions, namely: holy, hallowed, or sanctified. Another word is also used in modern versions, and generally in ecclesiastical literature, namely: sacred. Most of us have the idea that this word has the meaning of piety, or being pious, or to be devout. However, this conception is refuted when we read in Isa. 66:17 of the idolatrous people "who sanctify (qadash) themselves and purify themselves, to go to the gardens after an idol in the midst, eating swine's flesh and the abomination and the mouse ...." This refutation of the incorrect idea that "holy" means "to be pious", is further confirmed by the shocking discovery that one of the Hebrew words for a harlot (whore) is qedeshah, a derivative of qadash! Likewise, a male prostitute (or sodomite) is called a qadesh in Hebrew. This then causes us to seek for the real meaning of the word qodesh (its verb being qadash) and its Greek equivalent hagios. The Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible, vol. 2, p. 817, summarises what most authorities say about qodesh and hagios, ". . . the meaning of 'separation' is paramount ... the more elemental meaning seems to lie with 'separation'." The same dictionary, in vol. 4, p.210, says, "The basic sense of the Hebrew root qadash, as of its Greek equivalent in the Biblehagios, seems to be 'separateness'." Likewise, Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words repeatedly emphasises the fact of the fundamental meaning of the word to be: "separation".


Also from the Strong's Concordance:
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qodesh:
Definition:
        apartness, holiness, sacredness, separateness
1. apartness, sacredness, holiness
a. of God
b. of places
c. of things
2. set-apartness, separateness