WR> I don't presume to sit in God's chair when it comes to soul-judging, but it looks to me the principle in play has something to do with the premise that rebellious souls, after physical death, will never change from anti-God to pro-God.Are you suggesting that there is no such thing as free will after death? Are people who get to heaven and hell automatons who cannot change their minds?
AL: . . . "There are many of us here who simply believe there is insufficient evidence for the existence of a god, especially one of the sort referenced in the bronze age texts collectively called the Bible."It is not simply that I tell myself that. I can no longer control what level of proof I need than control when the sun comes up. It is simply a part of my personality. I suppose I could feign belief, but wouldn't that simply be a sin of deceit?
WR> I know there are many who keep telling themselves that.
WR>No. God offers satisfactory evidence: the experience of His call in your life; the experience of being a vessel of the Holy Spirit who shares His love with others.That might make sense to you, but it means little to me. As I explained above, I have no control over what level of evidence will eventually satisfy me. And so far that threshold has not been breached.
WR>...and that God has paid that debt Himself, and that we need to exchange our fallen nature for a new one.Two questions: 1) Why, specifically, was a blood sacrifice necessary (other than some other form of sacrifice)? 2) Why did God create us with natures that could be corrupted?
WR> Plus, the wait-and-see option is not neutral; it works directly against God's agenda of redemption.You've jumped the gun. You have presumed that your version of god is the correct one. Given the plethora of competing myths I believe it is sensible to elect to wait until more substantial evidence is presented to me.
WR> Redemption is not just a matter of perfecting souls in eternity; redemption ends there, but it begins here on earth, when people realize that their fellow human beings are not randomly-generated naked apes in a randomly-generated universe, but are beings specially cherished by their Creator and endowed with special purposes. That realization (and other realizations that are built into acceptance of Christianity's good news) provokes the individual who embraces it to treat his fellow human beings with compassion and respect, following the teachings of Christ, and to encourage others to do the same.Why does it matter where the realisation occurs? Isn't a realisation that occurs in heaven equally as valid as one that occurs on earth?
