South Africa World Cup 2010, and the shooting's already started
By Aidan Hartley
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DavidBenAriel
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World Cup South Africa - AYOR! |
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Only 70 miles from a 2010 World Cup football stadium, a farmer's wife and a boy aged 13 learn to defend themselves with lethal weapons. They say thousands
of white landowners have been killed by Zimbabwe-style marauders; their black rulers accuse them of belligerence and right-wing tendencies. Aidan Hartley
reports on the war of words you won't read about in your World Cup holiday brochure.
South Africa World Cup 2010, and the shooting's already started By Aidan Hartley |
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Daystar.pathwaymachine |
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Moses was born in Africa where he lived until he was 40 years old. Ebed-melech, favored by God, saved the life the prophet Jeremiah. He was African (Jeremiah
38:7-13; 39:15-18), many present at Pentecost were African (Acts 2:7-11) The man whom Philip preached to in his chariot was Ethiopian (Acts 8:26-38)
"[Noah] drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren . . . And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him. And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant. God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant." - Genesis 9:21-27, Authorized Version. In 1838 Theodore Weld, an antislavery crusader wrote in a popular tract, that the "prophecy of Noah [quoted above] is the vade mecum [constant companion] of slaveholders, and they never venture abroad without it." - The Bible Against Slavery, page 66 Notice, though, that Canaan, not Ham was cursed. His descendants settled in Palestine. (Genesis 10:15-19) They were subjugated by the Israel, the descendants of Shem, and later the Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome. They were not black skinned. Ham, and very likely Put, settled in Africa, and were the descendants of the black people. So if the Bible doesn't support the idea that the black people are cursed where does it come from? Even possibly before the time of Christ Jewish rabbis taught the story of how the black people originated, as The Encyclopedia Judaica claims: "Ham's descendant (Cush) Is black skinned as a punishment for Ham's having had sexual intercourse in the ark." Which was wrong. 1,500 years ago Ambrosiaster said: "Due to folly Ham, who foolishly ridiculed the nakedness of his father, was declared a slave." Which was wrong. John F. Maxwell, in his book Slavery and the Catholic Church, wrote: "This disastrous example of fundamentalist exegesis [explanation] continued to be used for 1,400 years and led to the widely held view that African Negroes were cursed by God." According to Maxwell, this view by the Catholic Church "apparently survived until 1873 when Pope Pius IX attached an indulgence to a prayer for the 'wretched Ethiopians in Central Africa that almighty God may at length remove the curse of Cham [Ham] from their hearts.'" Slavery advocate John Fletcher of Louisiana taught that the sin that brought the curse of Noah was racial intermarriage. That Cain was "smitten" with black skin for killing Abel and Ham married into the race of Cain. Nathan Lord, president of Dartmouth College taught that Noah's curse upon Canaan was attributed in part to Ham's "forbidden intermarriage with the previously wicked and accursed race of Cain." Which was wrong. In 1700 Judge Samuel Sewall of Boston pointed out: "For Canaan is the person cursed three times over, without the mentioning of Cham [Ham]. . . . Whereas the Blackmores [Black race] are not descended of Canaan, but of Cush." In 1762 John Woolman published a treatise which rightfully condemned the white man's ignorance and attempts to justify slavery and the attack on the black man's natural rights by writing it: "is a supposition too gross to be admitted into the mind of any person who sincerely desires to be governed by solid principles." The idea that African blacks were inferior to whites was a justification of slavery by professed Christians. Charles de Second, the French jurist and political philosopher of Montesquieu, explained it thus: "It is impossible for us to suppose these creatures to be men, because, allowing them to be men, a suspicion would follow, that we ourselves are not Christians." Since the economy of the southern cotton planters was based upon Negro slavery, American historian Clement Wood wrote: "The South searched the Scriptures for Biblical endorsement of the practice. . . . Constantly the South argued that slavery was sanctioned and in fact commanded by the Bible, and was a divinely-appointed institution especially beneficial to the Negroes." - A Complete History of the United States, pp. 217, 337. In 1902 the Bible House of St. Louis published "The Negro a Beast" or "In the Image of God" which included a chapter entitled "Convincing Biblical and Scientific Evidence that the Negro is Not of the Human Family." In the 1830's philosophers in the United States as well as the leading American physical anthropologist, Josiah C. Nott, tried to provide biological support of the black person as a beast. That various races evolved separately and blacks were more closely related to apes was a popular scientific principal. The Encyclopedia Britannica: "The negro would appear to stand on a lower evolutionary plane than the white man, and to be more closely related to the highest anthropoids." - Vol. 19, 1911, p. 344. Even recently Professor Carleton S. Coon, a former president of the American Association of Physical Anthropologists believes that the five races of men, in isolation from one another, "evolved independently into Homo sapiens not once but five times." A television broadcast claimed that Coon "presents evidence, and takes the position, that the Negro race is 200,000 years behind the White race on the ladder of evolution." Gerald R. Leslie, in The Sociology of Social Problems, Third Edition, by Paul B. Horton and Leslie: "The 'all men are created equal' dictum did not apply to Negroes, since they were 'property,' not men. Theories of a biblical Hamitic curse, of uncompleted or separate evolutions, of geographic determinism, and of intelligence test evidences were successively employed to justify treatment of Negroes as inferiors. As long as such notions were believed - and most people did believe them - there was no inconsistency in professing democratic ideals while practicing discrimination." In spite of the ignorant white man's obvious need to believe the black person inferior, and to beat him down, to think of him as an beast, The World Book Encyclopedia comments: "Highly developed Negro kingdoms existed in various parts of Africa hundreds of years ago. . . . Some of the Negro kings and their nobles lived in great wealth and splendor. Their capitals sometimes became centers of culture and trade. Between 1200 and 1600, a Negro-Arabic university flourished at Timbuktu in West Africa and became famous throughout Spain, North Africa, and the Middle East." - Vol. 14, 1973, pp. 106, 107. The Encyclopedia Americana on the impact of slavery on African culture: "It disorganized Negro culture and industry, stopped the development of art, overthrew governments and was the cause of that modern stagnation of culture which has marked the Dark Continent since 1600." - Vol. 20, 1927, p. 47. The Encyclopedia Americana says: "Slaves could not own property, possess firearms, engage in commerce, leave the plantation without permission from their owners, testify in court except against other Negroes, make contracts, learn to read and write, or hold meetings without the presence of white persons. . . . the murder or rape of a slave or of a free Negro by a white person was not regarded as a serious offense." - Vol. 20, 1959, p. 67. Prior to 1947 blacks were not allowed in U.S. major league baseball. It didn't take long for them, once allowed, to excel. Pretty much the same with basketball. Music, science, anything. My question to you, David Ben Ariel, is why you would be inclined to propagate the ignorance? For attention? Knowing that we are all brothers, no matter the color of our skin, any more than the color of our eyes or hair. And knowing that one who proclaims love for God and doesn't have love for his brother is a liar, you continue in hate and ignorance.
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Daystar wrote: My question to you, David Ben Ariel, is why you would be inclined to propagate the ignorance? For attention? Knowing that we are all brothers, no matter the color of our skin, any more than the color of our eyes or hair. And knowing that one who proclaims love for God and doesn't have love for his brother is a liar, you continue in hate and ignorance.David Ben Ariel will not enter into logical conversation. His cult is based on the lost tribes being "blond" and populating the UK and USA! The evidence includes "only the UK/USA has the moral superiority and therefore must be made up of the missing tribes" and a quote that Joseph had "rosey cheeks" ( and therefore must be white) although roses did not exist in biblical Jerusalem. Don't worry, David is an ex Hari Kishna cult member. He simply picks and chooses religions that allow him to argue his white suprematist rubbish. David is reluctant but has admitted that he became HIV positive from interacial gay sex at the time he was asking African Americans to leave the USA. I think his pre occupation with Israel is simply because he thrown out after belonging to a cult in Israel and now he is on his own he is lonely and using the internet to pretend he is making friends. In five years I have never seen anyone respond to David's posts with anything else than repulsion. |
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If we're all brethren why are Blacks brutally raping, torturing and murdering Whites?
What justification did Black African tribes have for enslaving each other and for selling their Black brethren to others? Who said we're not all equal when it comes to our ultimate spiritual potential to become born again into the Kingdom-Family of God? Why are you comparing apples to oranges? Are you a PC cultist or what? Are you in denial of our God-given differences? |
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"Matthew Ellard" why don't you book a flight to South Africa and get off the beaten path to show us how we're all equal and how Blacks are
your brothers? Or are you just another hypocrite who feels safe and secure in your mother's basement?
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DavidBenAriel wrote:I'll go with that one. Yep. Our differences are small compared to our similarities. And the differences are more easily explained by evolution than by a racist allfather. Oh, and you're nutburgers. |
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DavidBenAriel wrote:I am proud that all modern humans including yourself and myself, come from Africa. Black Africans belong to my team, my sub-team simply has lost its skin melanin. You are a bit naive about the world David. Australia's indigenous population is black and I lived in the "black" suburb of Redfern . You are simply pre-occupied with africans because you caught HIV of an African American. This is why you never ask chinese, slavs, greeks and others to also leave the USA. You are only concerned with revenge for your own situation. It is simply sad that you have no friends to talk with, so you are limited to blogs on the internet. |
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DBA wrote: Well, that is a pretty stupid question in light of the OP, and the fact that whites are raping, torturing and murdering whites as well. We are people. That is what we do. DBA wrote: The same as any other? DBA wrote: Is that a trick question? Who are we? The human race? DBA wrote: Apples to oranges is more like comparing people of dark skin with apes. This is more like grapes with different skin color. DBA wrote: No. DBA wrote: No. I embrace them. |
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DavidBenAriel wrote: For the same reasons Whites brutally rape, torture and murder Blacks (although "White" and "Black" don't have real biological meaning anyhow). For the same reasons people brutally rape, torture and murder people generally. DavidBenAriel wrote: None. Is slavery OK because black people did it? DavidBenAriel wrote: There are no relevant differences to deny.
With formal systems, such as mathematics, you can have certainty and demonstrability, but not reality.
With science, such as physics, you can have reality and demonstrability, but not certainty. With belief systems, such as Christianity, you can have reality and certainty, but not demonstrability. --HRG, on CARM (paraphrased with his approval) "Come now, and let us reason together" http://lifetheuniverseandonebrow.blogspot.com/ |
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DavidBenAriel wrote: You know, for thousands of years before the African slave trade began, white people sold other white people into slavery. For that matter, so did the Hebrews. Religion encysts past mythologies: guesses, hidden assumptions of trust in the universe, pronouncements made in search of personal power, all mingled with shreds of enlightenment. And always an unspoken commandment: Thou shalt not question! We break that commandment daily in the harnessing of human imagination to our deepest creativity. -Chapterhouse: Dune ***NOTE: All references to any God, gods, or other metaphysical concepts are hypothetical in nature and do not imply belief in said deities unless specifically indicated. These statements do not represent the opinion of the poster, his family, friends, other posters, EZboard, or the dark satanic masters that possess him and are secretly pulling his strings. All information copyright 2008 Big Faceless Corp. |
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jeff |
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what's a slave going for these days? is there a market that you go to, or do you need to arrange a broker or what?
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Try EBay.
Aggressive Agnostic: I don't know, and you don't either! |
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Asia has a thriving underground sex slave industry. Not a happy thought.
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| World Cup South Africa - AYOR! | 06/14/09 09:08:03 | DavidBenAriel |
| Question For David Ben Ariel | 06/14/09 11:19:42 | Daystar.pathwaymachine |
| Re: World Cup South Africa - AYOR! | 06/14/09 17:33:45 | Matthew Ellard.pedg |
| Re: World Cup South Africa - AYOR! | 06/14/09 18:03:42 | DavidBenAriel |
| Re: World Cup South Africa - AYOR! | 06/14/09 18:09:48 | Keith and Company |
| Re: World Cup South Africa - AYOR! | 06/14/09 19:40:08 | Daystar.pathwaymachine |
| Re: World Cup South Africa - AYOR! | 06/15/09 03:49:31 | One Brow |
| Re: World Cup South Africa - AYOR! | 06/15/09 08:40:23 | Malkut |
| out of curiosity | 06/15/09 10:16:02 | jeff |
| Re: World Cup South Africa - AYOR! | 06/15/09 15:37:47 | Hawker Hurricane |
| Re: World Cup South Africa - AYOR! | 06/17/09 12:37:08 | Quontir |
| Re: World Cup South Africa - AYOR! | 06/14/09 18:06:37 | DavidBenAriel |
| Re: World Cup South Africa - AYOR! | 06/14/09 18:22:08 | Matthew Ellard.pedg |