Ha. I was refered to this site by an atheist friend who said that I would be shocked by the amount of biblically contradictions I would find here. What a joke!
I looked at a bunch of the so-called contradictions and they are the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. Obviously the author of that piece of humanist
propaganda has never read the bible front to back. Everything on this site is taken out of context or false. One of them said "Did you know Abraham had
more than one son?" No sh%t!!!! Really? No Way!!!.......this guy doesnt know what the hell he's talking about because everyone whos read the bible
knows that Abe has many many sons. In fact there is a song children sing at church called "Father Abraham had Many Sons." The author was obviously an
idiot because if he'd actually read that part of the bible he'd see that there is no contradiction there. I hope people arent stupid enough to fall for
this bs.
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Posts: 20 03/20/08 14:09:50 |
Malkut wrote: So let me get this right. You are mocking me for using the non-word "u" while claiming not to be "detracting" from the argument? Okay buddy! Hope the weather is nice on your planet. |
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Posts: 2111 03/20/08 14:12:11 |
The problem with the biblical account of the resurrection is that there are significant differences in the witnesses account - was the rock rolled aside or not? How many people came to the tomb? Were angels seen, if so how many, when and what did they say? Many apologists claim, as you do, that the inconsistencies make the account more believable. However, any court of law would throw out the case on the basis that the witnesses were unreliable on substantial facts. One man's theology is another man's belly laugh - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Posts: 21 03/20/08 14:16:07 |
Rambo123UK wrote: Oh great here we go again. You are really immature for a brit! Ha. I hope nobody actually takes you serious because you are like a little kid on the play ground running around poking fun at everyone who doesnt agree with everything you say. What a shame.....not unexpected but a shame non the less. IF ANYONE IS LISTENING PLEASE NOTE THAT I HAVE GONE OUT OF MY WAY TO LEARN AND ASK QUESTIONS CONCERNING A TOPIC I AM VERY INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT=EVOLUTION!!!!! BUT THIS SOD OVER HERE WONT LET ME ASK QUESTIONS BECAUSE HE IS A BIGOT!!! |
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Posts: 6762 03/20/08 22:10:02 |
Hey, I read it, and at least you ask questions and don't just write the whole thing off as a "religion". That makes you far more open-minded
than some folk I could mention.
Religion encysts past mythologies: guesses, hidden assumptions of trust in the universe, pronouncements made in search of personal power, all mingled with shreds of enlightenment. And always an unspoken commandment: Thou shalt not question! We break that commandment daily in the harnessing of human imagination to our deepest creativity. -Chapterhouse: Dune ***NOTE: All references to any God, gods, or other metaphysical concepts are hypothetical in nature and do not imply belief in said deities unless specifically indicated. These statements do not represent the opinion of the poster, his family, friends, other posters, EZboard, or the dark satanic masters that possess him and are secretly pulling his strings. All information copyright 2008 Big Faceless Corp. |
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Posts: 6764 03/20/08 22:28:16 |
WordClock wrote:
It's not really an argument (since we all agree), as much as it is me provoking you to see how long your need to get the last word in will continue to
win out over the common sense solution of ignoring me for a while until I get bored and start picking on Greasy again. Actually, that's already happened.
Religion encysts past mythologies: guesses, hidden assumptions of trust in the universe, pronouncements made in search of personal power, all mingled with shreds of enlightenment. And always an unspoken commandment: Thou shalt not question! We break that commandment daily in the harnessing of human imagination to our deepest creativity. -Chapterhouse: Dune ***NOTE: All references to any God, gods, or other metaphysical concepts are hypothetical in nature and do not imply belief in said deities unless specifically indicated. These statements do not represent the opinion of the poster, his family, friends, other posters, EZboard, or the dark satanic masters that possess him and are secretly pulling his strings. All information copyright 2008 Big Faceless Corp. |
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When you stop ignoring the answers, then I'll answer more questions.
And you are really quick to throw out the accusations of ad hominem attacks and "bigotry", aren't you? Perhaps if you had any actual arguments you wouldn't have to resort to such accusations and would instead actually be able to debate. Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.
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Posts: 586 03/21/08 09:28:03 |
WordClock wrote: Of course it proves the point. The three are contradictory. Using them is useless because we can not be sure that any physical action happened at all. In
addition a court of law would throw out a case with such conflicting stories.
What did Jesus say? How the hell would I know? I wasnt there but I do believe that the crucifixion really happened How do you know it happened? We already know that his last words can't be trusted what else was written down that can't be trusted? Personal it doesnt matter what he said or if he said anything at all. Words are nothing compared to action.What action? We don't even know if an action occured at all... |
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Posts: 66 03/21/08 10:32:43 |
Malkut: It's not really an argument (since we all agree), as much as it is me provoking you to see how long your need to get the last word in will continue to win out over the common sense solution of ignoring me for a while until I get bored and start picking on Greasy again. Actually, that's already happened. Has it? I must have missed it. I was getting kind of bored listening to myself and I thought you should be coming by soon ... and I must have missed it. Oh, wait a minute, there it is. |
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Posts: 22 03/21/08 16:41:23 |
Rambo123UK wrote: and just how do you suppose that i am ignoring the answers? Ive demonstrated my will to learn. Hey I learned all that fallacy, bigotry stuff from you guys. Atheist I mean. |
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WordClock wrote: It's funny how you're exactingly specific about your sweeping generalizations. Religion encysts past mythologies: guesses, hidden assumptions of trust in the universe, pronouncements made in search of personal power, all mingled with shreds of enlightenment. And always an unspoken commandment: Thou shalt not question! We break that commandment daily in the harnessing of human imagination to our deepest creativity. -Chapterhouse: Dune ***NOTE: All references to any God, gods, or other metaphysical concepts are hypothetical in nature and do not imply belief in said deities unless specifically indicated. These statements do not represent the opinion of the poster, his family, friends, other posters, EZboard, or the dark satanic masters that possess him and are secretly pulling his strings. All information copyright 2008 Big Faceless Corp. |
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Posts: 6767 03/21/08 17:42:11 |
GreasusChrysler wrote: I don't blame you. As others have said, the new post indicator on Yuku sucks. Religion encysts past mythologies: guesses, hidden assumptions of trust in the universe, pronouncements made in search of personal power, all mingled with shreds of enlightenment. And always an unspoken commandment: Thou shalt not question! We break that commandment daily in the harnessing of human imagination to our deepest creativity. -Chapterhouse: Dune ***NOTE: All references to any God, gods, or other metaphysical concepts are hypothetical in nature and do not imply belief in said deities unless specifically indicated. These statements do not represent the opinion of the poster, his family, friends, other posters, EZboard, or the dark satanic masters that possess him and are secretly pulling his strings. All information copyright 2008 Big Faceless Corp. |
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Posts: 23 03/21/08 21:00:23 |
Malkut wrote: Yeah, thanx, I try to call em like I see em. |
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Ive demonstrated my will to learn You've claimed it. Demonstration is different. Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.
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Posts: 1657 03/28/08 16:19:32 |
I just don't get it. There is certainly a contradiction between those two verses.
If you don't think there is, then I have a simple question for you: what were Jesus's last words? |
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Posts: 3686 03/28/08 17:37:10 |
I think his point was that none of the gospel authors are claiming to report his last words. His last words may have been, "AH SHIT!" Of course, he
cannot demonstrate that the authors were not reporting his last words. The structure of the text appears as though that is precisely what they were doing. He
has not provided a satisfactory explanation for why each of the authors chose different words to report. If one was there and heard some of it how did he miss
the other parts? If they all heard all the parts, why not report them all? Why not explain why all the parts were not reported? Was is due to memory lapse? No
details are provided even though the sentence structure is clearly HE DID X; AND THEN HE DID Y.
It seems more likely to me that they were all trying to report his last words and they probably disagreed on them. That's why there are four gospels. My guess is that the four different version were developed by competing groups of Jesus lovers. Then, when the nutjobs who much later collected the gospels into a single work put them together, they either weren't careful to inspect them for contradictions, or they didn't care about contradictions - they cared only that the works were revered as being written by friends of Jesus. Of course, any seeming contradiction can be explained, so who cares? |
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Posts: 1659 03/28/08 18:13:39 |
Perhaps the real contradiction, then, is that the bible is allegedly the word of God, but we have no idea what God is trying trying to say. If he really did
"inspire" the bible, he thought it was important for us to know Jesus's last words. If Jesus's words were truly insignificant, he could have
put the formula for penicillin, or at least a good joke, in the verse instead. But he thought it was more important to convey Jesus's last words. And
still, we have no idea what Jesus's last words were.
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Posts: 3688 03/28/08 19:22:49 |
Yeah. The gospels were supposedly beamed into the heads of the authors so that they wouldn't get anything wrong. How else would they be able to relate
parts of the story that they did not experience personally, like Jesus sweating blood at Gethsemane? So, why did god beam different things into the different
author's heads? No explanation is given.
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Posts: 24 03/28/08 19:48:09 |
Yark Hutprancer wrote:
Actually no they werent and thats a huge claim and a stupid assumption. Nobody has ever said that the words were beamed into their heads so that they wouldnt get any of it wrong. The fact is that the Bible is supposed to be divinely INSPIRED not written by God. It was Written by man thus probably does contain errors or mistranslations. The central theme or message of the bible has not changed and thats whats important. It doesnt matter to christians what jesus last words were, that wasnt the point of the story. Only skeptics are concerned with that kind of stuff. You say No explanations were given but who says they were supposed to be? God didnt explain everything in the bible and probably for reasons unknown. Christians have faith so they trust that (like the bible says) one day all their questions will be answered. Just like scientist, christians know that they might not have all the answers but will someday. |
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Posts: 2121 03/28/08 20:54:46 |
psychoboy wrote: Well, the bible itself tells us that God deliberately confounded human language so we wouldn't understand each other. If the bible was inspired by God
so is the confusion it causes.
"Faith is believing what you know isn't true" - Arthur C Clarke, 1997
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Posts: 25 03/29/08 20:30:44 |
Argy Lacedom wrote:
Interesting point, maybe the confusion isnt a bad thing. According to the bible this life is just a series of test anyways. To be tested you have to be confronted with right and wrong. |
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| What contradictions? | 03/13/08 11:29:05 | WordClock |
| Re: What contradictions? | 03/13/08 12:06:13 | Yark Hutprancer |
| Re: What contradictions? | 03/13/08 12:30:17 | Malkut |
| Re: What contradictions? | 03/13/08 12:42:31 | WordClock |
| Re: What contradictions? | 03/13/08 1 |