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Jesus wasn't speaking Greek, was he? So John's phrase there is a translation - how can a translation be held as being more accurate than the original language? That makes no sense. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (1skybluepink) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7794 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:22:55 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:46 - Famous Last Words ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7815/t/Matthew-27-46-Famous-Last-Words.html#reply-7815
My first major issue with Waterrock's explanation is why didn't the other "witnesses" record any of the words Jesus spoke? Why doesn't John record the other two phrases, or Mark or Matthew or Luke include either one of the phrases? Was John too far from Jesus to hear him say... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Celsus) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7815 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:34:55 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:46 - Famous Last Words ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7814/t/Matthew-27-46-Famous-Last-Words.html#reply-7814
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Some bystanders misunderstand His cry as a call for Elijah. One of them fills a sponge with sour wine, puts it on a hyssop-reed, and offers it to Jesus to drink (as related in Matthew 27:47-49, Mark 15:35-36, and, more summarily, in John 19:28-29).
I have been looking all night for the place in the gospels where it says that bystanders misunderstood Jesus' last (or second to last)... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (psychoboy) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7814 Mon, 15 May 2006 20:29:53 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:46 - Famous Last Words ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7813/t/Matthew-27-46-Famous-Last-Words.html#reply-7813
"If I were God, and I made myself into a regular ol' person, I would have written down the stuff I said myself. I would have had people there with me taking notes. I wouldn't rely on people from the generation after my death to get the story right." - i would be an... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Yark Hutprancer) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7813 Fri, 12 May 2006 22:34:03 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:46 - Famous Last Words ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7812/t/Matthew-27-46-Famous-Last-Words.html#reply-7812
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Wagering my soul? It would be more of a wager to just not seek the truth or to not know it, or care. After all no belief means we get nothing, my belief means life, either way right or wrong, to not believe means to just get nothing, me if I am wrong I get what non believers do "nothing", but if I am right....I get life.


So your God is...

PASCAL. feeds@yuku.com (Bahamian Jedi) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7812 Fri, 12 May 2006 19:58:47 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:46 - Famous Last Words ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7811/t/Matthew-27-46-Famous-Last-Words.html#reply-7811
Yes, you are right there are millions of interpretations of the universe. I do not need luck, because I know scripture is right, so I am prepared to see less and less God and more everything else by way of beliefs in todays world.... it does not... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (stormyeyes) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7811 Wed, 10 May 2006 20:29:52 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:46 - Famous Last Words ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7810/t/Matthew-27-46-Famous-Last-Words.html#reply-7810
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I never acknowledged problems with the original authors, only translations and teachings.
You acknowledged that their reporting of events was limited to what they could see/hear, just as witnesses of an accident.
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Wagering my soul? It would be more of a wager to just not seek the truth or to not know it, or... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Keith and Company) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7810 Wed, 10 May 2006 12:48:04 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:46 - Famous Last Words ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7809/t/Matthew-27-46-Famous-Last-Words.html#reply-7809
I meant gist, no one better than me can confuse when typing the english language...:( expecially when I hurry.

You said to me:
That's amazing faith. You acknowledge problems with translations, interpolations, agendas, and the limitations of the authors and still... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (stormyeyes) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7809 Wed, 10 May 2006 12:03:48 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:46 - Famous Last Words ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7805/t/Matthew-27-46-Famous-Last-Words.html#reply-7805
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not a direct quote exactly, but you get the jest


So it was a joke? Or did you mean gist?
"I don't think we're here for anything, we're just products of evolution. You can say 'Gee, your life must be pretty bleak if you don't think there's a purpose' but I'm anticipating a good... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (MikeyV) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7805 Wed, 10 May 2006 11:59:29 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:46 - Famous Last Words ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7808/t/Matthew-27-46-Famous-Last-Words.html#reply-7808 :\ ]]> feeds@yuku.com (stormyeyes) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7808 Wed, 10 May 2006 11:44:46 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:46 - Famous Last Words ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7807/t/Matthew-27-46-Famous-Last-Words.html#reply-7807
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but I tell you this, Christ would not have received the death penalty with me as his attorney,
Aside from the arrogance, here, i have to point out that without the death penalty, his so called sacrifice would have been moot.

Sure, he'd have been saved, but could we expect salvation for '10 denarii and time served?'
]]> feeds@yuku.com (Keith and Company) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7807 Wed, 10 May 2006 11:39:02 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:46 - Famous Last Words ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7806/t/Matthew-27-46-Famous-Last-Words.html#reply-7806
I read the bible as an attorney, it was a... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (stormyeyes) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7806 Wed, 10 May 2006 11:33:07 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:46 - Famous Last Words ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7804/t/Matthew-27-46-Famous-Last-Words.html#reply-7804
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I believe the vital truth is in scripture I believe you find it when only you seek it, and I believe finding it is easier now thanks to modern technology.
That's amazing faith. You acknowledge problems with translations, interpolations, agendas, and the limitations of the authors and still find the result worth wagering your soul on.

Tell me, did you find the Truth in The... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Keith and Company) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7804 Wed, 10 May 2006 11:23:01 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:46 - Famous Last Words ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7803/t/Matthew-27-46-Famous-Last-Words.html#reply-7803 feeds@yuku.com (stormyeyes) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7803 Wed, 10 May 2006 11:04:58 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:46 - Famous Last Words ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7802/t/Matthew-27-46-Famous-Last-Words.html#reply-7802
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well using a human example is all I am capable of.
Oh sure. Exactly. That's all any of us are capable of. As near as i can tell, that's all anyone has been capable of.

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Read my post without the accident report. Just leave it out.
But you still feel that the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Keith and Company) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7802 Wed, 10 May 2006 10:53:42 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:46 - Famous Last Words ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7801/t/Matthew-27-46-Famous-Last-Words.html#reply-7801
Read my post without the accident report. Just leave it out.

:p ]]> feeds@yuku.com (stormyeyes) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7801 Wed, 10 May 2006 10:51:32 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:46 - Famous Last Words ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7800/t/Matthew-27-46-Famous-Last-Words.html#reply-7800
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If I am a witness to an accident and I heard more than you, I would tell it,
I'm really fond of the accident reporting metaphor for contradictions in The Books. Ir reduces the entire The Books to things men wrote from a personal point of view.
No claim that there's any sort of divine inspiration of the work, no omniscient history, no absolute Truth, nothing of any greater... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Keith and Company) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7800 Wed, 10 May 2006 08:26:00 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:46 - Famous Last Words ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7799/t/Matthew-27-46-Famous-Last-Words.html#reply-7799
Luke 23:46 says....And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

John 19:29 and 30...Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (stormyeyes) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7799 Wed, 10 May 2006 06:59:08 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:46 - Famous Last Words ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7798/t/Matthew-27-46-Famous-Last-Words.html#reply-7798
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Another point................
Keep in mind this POLICE REPORT below from 2 witnesses.
1) One reports that Jack hit Harry first.
2) The other reports that Harry hit Jack first.

Contradiction?

No the witnesses see 2 different PERSPECTIVES. The fight takes place
on 2 sides of a wall. One witness is on one side of the wall and the other on the opposite side. Jack DID hit Harry first and then Harry... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Franciscan Monkey) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7798 Tue, 09 May 2006 11:29:42 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:46 - Famous Last Words ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7797/t/Matthew-27-46-Famous-Last-Words.html#reply-7797
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Another point................
Keep in mind this POLICE REPORT below from 2 witnesses.
1) One reports that Jack hit Harry first.
2) The other reports that Harry hit Jack first.

Contradiction?

No the witnesses see 2 different PERSPECTIVES. The fight takes place
on 2 sides of a wall. One witness is on one side of the wall and the other on the opposite side. Jack DID hit Harry first and then Harry... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (FastHack) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7797 Tue, 09 May 2006 02:28:29 GMT <![CDATA[ Matthew 27:46 - Famous Last Words ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/940/t/Matthew-27-46-Famous-Last-Words.html
A: No; the objection is loaded. A careful comparison of Matthews account, Lukes account, and Johns account establishes the following chain of events:

(1) Jesus cries out Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani (a quotation... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Waterrock) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/940 Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:43:42 GMT