Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/916/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html en-us Copyright 2006, Yuku feeds@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:46:52 GMT Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:39:25 GMT Yuku Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 Yuku http://static.yuku.com//feed/bypass/images/button-yuku.png http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/916/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html Yuku - free hosted forums and profiles 88 31 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7518/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html#reply-7518 Jesus Christ death on the cross didn't end that war. When Jesus told the thief on the cross, "Today you will be with me in Paradise". He was referring to the false heaven.
The war in the false heaven is still continuing.
Those who have died and believes they are in the real heaven are actually in... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (tiscpa) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7518 Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:39:25 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7535/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html#reply-7535 feeds@yuku.com (psychoboy) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7535 Mon, 21 Aug 2006 20:09:11 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7534/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html#reply-7534
The little flock rejects the Book of Revelation because it is metaphorical, allegorical, poetical and can be misinterpreted a dozen different ways and as you have just seen contradicts Yahshuah. Yahshuah never hints of a war in heaven. He prays that we all come under the loving rule of his father not the military dictatorship of one... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Limudyah) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7534 Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:24:45 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7533/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html#reply-7533
I'm not familiar with 3rd edition. I really didn't read it that much after I noted that they stated the gods again. Personally, I feel that was a mistake since there's a rule... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (NobleSavage1) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7533 Thu, 27 Oct 2005 06:54:16 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7532/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html#reply-7532
Of course, there's a serious downside to Heaven being run entirely the way God wants. It would seem to indicate that should we die and go to Heaven, we lose our free will, which might otherwise lead us to do things that God doesn't want.

Warfare [i]and[/i] slavery. Heaven just looks better and better all the time... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (gystex) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7532 Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:51:39 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7531/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html#reply-7531 feeds@yuku.com (Yark Hutprancer) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7531 Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:19:29 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7530/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html#reply-7530
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"And there was war in heaven";
I'd forgotten about that for some time.

Do you think it is an enjoyable war? Will people be killed? If they do, where will their spirits go? Will they be hurt? If so will it only be the masochists? Will Gengis Kahn be involved? Are they waiting for George Bush before it starts? If god is in heaven and god is outside time does... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Argy Lacedom) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7530 Wed, 19 Oct 2005 19:45:04 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7529/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html#reply-7529
SS: "Before you can use Rev 12:7 as a standpoint to dispute a previous verse from the bible(Mt 6:10) you must first read the entire chapter which contains the verse to get the understanding of the verse."

Okay. Having done that, I interpret 12:1-2 as one part of the vision (representing the progress of the nation of Israel toward the arrival of the Messiah), and 12:3-4a as another part of the vision which represents events which chronologically... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Waterrock) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7529 Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:41:55 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7528/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html#reply-7528

Rev 12 begins figuratively. Verse 1 says "And a great sign was seen...". The rest of the verses folllow suit. Rev 12:7 is a description of a sign that was seen and witnessed. Never once is it said... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Sightseer) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7528 Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:14:45 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7526/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html#reply-7526 :b ]]> feeds@yuku.com (retired catholic) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7526 Fri, 02 Sep 2005 12:50:48 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7527/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html#reply-7527 Every effort must be made to end the human rights abuses in Freedonia. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Rev Etherman) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7527 Fri, 02 Sep 2005 12:35:06 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7525/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html#reply-7525
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Well ... when following the Klingon saying, Hoch nuH qel, start with the easiest to use.


hee hee - touche

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I think Jesus' entrusting of the statement to his disciples implies that God's will was being done in the first century, and there's no impetus, as far as I can tell, to think that the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (jeff) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7525 Sat, 20 Aug 2005 15:35:16 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7524/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html#reply-7524
J: ... "but i guess i still need to polish the finer points."

Well ... when following the Klingon saying, Hoch nuH qel, start with the easiest to use.

J: "so its incorrect, therefore, for us to say 'as it is in heaven' in (what i was taught) as the lord's prayer, since jesus is making a time-sensitive remark. we have no idea if god's will is currently being done in heaven, true?"

I think Jesus' entrusting of the statement to his... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Waterrock) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7524 Sat, 20 Aug 2005 15:09:20 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7523/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html#reply-7523
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With or without positing "hyper-ethereal sub-accountability" -- um, thanks anyway Jeff


oh, sorry, wr - was it 'transmixolidian prolyricism'? i get those two confused sometimes. i've got the beat down (complicated-sounding term smacking of star trek technobabble followed by unfortunate analogy) but i guess i still need to polish the finer points.
btw, thanks... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (jeff) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7523 Sat, 20 Aug 2005 00:48:38 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7522/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html#reply-7522
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Yours in Christ,
Just an aside WR. What does Yours in Christ mean?
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William found... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Argy Lacedom) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7522 Fri, 19 Aug 2005 23:46:08 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7521/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html#reply-7521
SW: ... "Unless it was: "Well, it is now, but it didn't use to be. You see, there was a war in heaven a long time ago. But that's all taken care of now. Now whatever God wants in heaven, God gets." Is that what you were saying?"

Yes, essentially. The simple solution here is to notice that Jesus Did Not Say, "Thy will be done on earth, as it /has always been done/ in heaven." His reference to the performance of God's will in heaven... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Waterrock) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7521 Fri, 19 Aug 2005 22:43:10 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7520/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html#reply-7520
steve, what we have here is an instance of 'hyper-ethereal sub-accountability' or, in layman's terms, satan can do nothing without the tacit consent of God. there was a war in heaven, and satan waged this war because God did not interfer with satan's free will.
as an analogy, consider a banana republic where the dictator knows that one of his underlings is staging a takeover. the dictator reinforces... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (jeff) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7520 Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:37:26 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7517/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html#reply-7517 feeds@yuku.com (spiirit) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7517 Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:23:05 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7519/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html#reply-7519
Unless it was: "Well, it is now, but it didn't use to be. You see, there was a war in heaven a long time ago. But that's all taken care of now. Now whatever God wants in heaven, God gets." Is that what you were saying?
Steve Wells
]]> feeds@yuku.com (Steve Wells) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7519 Fri, 19 Aug 2005 09:29:50 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/7516/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html#reply-7516
But I dont know. If there was a war once, why couldnt there be one again? (I guess we should trust God and Bush to take care of war for us, though. Im sure they both have everything under control.)

Oh, and thanks for the correction on the Is God's will always done in... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Steve Wells) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/7516 Fri, 19 Aug 2005 08:47:55 GMT <![CDATA[ Matthew 6:10 - Thy Will Be Done ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/916/t/Matthew-6-10-Thy-Will-Be-Done.html
A: Not even remotely. A problem has been projected onto the text, by interpreting the phrase as it is (in Matthew 6:10) as if it means as it always has been -- which of course is not justified. To put it another way: the word... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Waterrock) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/916 Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:46:52 GMT