Matthew 12:3-8 - Do Good On The Sabbath http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/863/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html en-us Copyright 2006, Yuku feeds@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Wed, 07 Sep 2005 22:44:24 GMT Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:11:41 GMT Yuku Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 Yuku http://static.yuku.com//feed/bypass/images/button-yuku.png http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/863/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html Yuku - free hosted forums and profiles 88 31 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 12:3-8 - Do Good On The Sabbath ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6505/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html#reply-6505
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Fun family weekends aren't enforced with threats of ex

You've never been an executive for Tupperware, i see.[/quote]

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That... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (lajekahr) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6505 Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:11:41 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 12:3-8 - Do Good On The Sabbath ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6504/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html#reply-6504
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Fun family weekends aren't enforced with threats of execution.
You've never been an executive for Tupperware, i see. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Keith and Company) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6504 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 04:56:34 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 12:3-8 - Do Good On The Sabbath ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6503/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html#reply-6503 "Everyone will now make merry"
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We should fear God (Matthew 10:28)
We should love God (Matthew 22:37)
There is no fear in love (1 John 4:18)
]]> feeds@yuku.com (Hawker Hurricane) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6503 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:25:47 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 12:3-8 - Do Good On The Sabbath ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6502/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html#reply-6502
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The short of it is that the Hebrew word and its Greek equivalent are both better translated into a word meaning "separated" or "set apart".


Set apart for GOD. Fun family weekends aren't enforced with threats of execution.
feeds@yuku.com (Malkut) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6502 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 16:47:21 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 12:3-8 - Do Good On The Sabbath ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6501/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html#reply-6501
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The short of it is that the Hebrew word and its Greek equivalent are both better translated into a word meaning "separated" or "set apart".
Then why doesn't the translation say that??
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When... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Argy Lacedom) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6501 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 14:46:15 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 12:3-8 - Do Good On The Sabbath ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6500/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html#reply-6500
The short of it is that the Hebrew word and its Greek equivalent are both better translated into a word meaning "separated" or "set apart".

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The Hebrew word qodesh and the equivalent Greek word hagios, together with their derivatives, have been... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (lajekahr) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6500 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 12:34:41 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 12:3-8 - Do Good On The Sabbath ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6499/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html#reply-6499
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Holy means set apart.
By what reference?

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Holy
Main Entry: holy
Pronunciation: \&#712;h-l\
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): holier; holiest
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English hlig; akin to Old English hl whole more at whole
Date: before 12th century
1:... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Keith and Company) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6499 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:01:05 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 12:3-8 - Do Good On The Sabbath ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6498/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html#reply-6498
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then i'm sure you will have no problem producing a verse from the bible that says as much.


That's pretty much the entire point of what I've been saying. It is a Holy day. Holy means set apart. We are to sanctify it. Sanctify means set apart for good, essentially.

So every verse calling it holy points to that. Also the very verses in question, have Yeshua making... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (lajekahr) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6498 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:54:44 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 12:3-8 - Do Good On The Sabbath ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6496/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html#reply-6496
So, pre-cooking food (or preparing cold food), and gathering extra water (better have some extra buckets to store it in!)
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We should fear God (Matthew 10:28)
We should love God (Matthew 22:37)
There is no fear in love (1 John 4:18)
]]> feeds@yuku.com (Hawker Hurricane) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6496 Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:30:53 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 12:3-8 - Do Good On The Sabbath ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6497/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html#reply-6497
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It's a buffer against workaholism. It's a day where worldly concerns are put aside.


then i'm sure you will have no problem producing a verse from the bible that says as much.

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Religion encysts past mythologies: guesses, hidden assumptions of trust in the universe, pronouncements made in search of personal power, all mingled with shreds of enlightenment. And always an unspoken commandment: Thou... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Malkut) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6495 Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:07:50 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 12:3-8 - Do Good On The Sabbath ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6494/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html#reply-6494 ==================
We should fear God (Matthew 10:28)
We should love God (Matthew 22:37)
There is no fear in love (1 John 4:18)
]]> feeds@yuku.com (Hawker Hurricane) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6494 Wed, 02 Jan 2008 13:54:14 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 12:3-8 - Do Good On The Sabbath ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6493/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html#reply-6493
Is it because of some great Holyness? Not really. I just don't have any need for them on any day of the week.

My point really is that that's not the point. The point is that we rest. We move away from the daily grind for one day of the week. Holy means "to set apart". It's outside of our normal.
It's a buffer against workaholism. It's a day where worldly concerns are put aside.

The bible says nothing about answering... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (lajekahr) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6493 Wed, 02 Jan 2008 08:04:44 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 12:3-8 - Do Good On The Sabbath ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6492/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html#reply-6492
A believer will tell you that somehow we should just be following our hearts and another will tell you that our hearts are pure evil and we should only follow the "law". Some believers even say both... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Yark Hutprancer) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6492 Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:18:23 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 12:3-8 - Do Good On The Sabbath ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6490/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html#reply-6490
I wonder why they tell differing stories tho...

God is just a wacky, nutty funster. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Yark Hutprancer) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6490 Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:15:12 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 12:3-8 - Do Good On The Sabbath ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6491/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html#reply-6491
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Unfortunately, we began doing just what was needed to make sure we weren't punished, but the point was to move beyond that.


the issue is building a fire or not building a fire.
god said don't build a fire.
you say we have moved beyond having to be told what to do, and will just do what is good in our hearts.
therefore, you should voluntarily not be building fires,... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (jeff) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6491 Fri, 28 Dec 2007 07:44:17 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 12:3-8 - Do Good On The Sabbath ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6489/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html#reply-6489
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God knew we would eventually fall into service without heart.
I feel very humble to be in communication with someone who reads the mind of god.
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When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Argy Lacedom) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6489 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:40:38 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 12:3-8 - Do Good On The Sabbath ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6488/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html#reply-6488
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1. There is no way of accurately counting back the weeks for thousands of years to determine which day is originallly the seventh, and that was never the in

What???? Of course there is. Ask any Jew.

Sunday is the day of worship because Constantine (the sun... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (lajekahr) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6488 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 09:26:29 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 12:3-8 - Do Good On The Sabbath ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6487/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html#reply-6487 ________________________________________________________________________
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When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said "Let us pray." We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land - Desmond Tutu
]]> feeds@yuku.com (Argy Lacedom) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6487 Sun, 23 Dec 2007 13:48:10 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 12:3-8 - Do Good On The Sabbath ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6486/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html#reply-6486 :rollin ]]> feeds@yuku.com (1skybluepink) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6486 Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:22:16 GMT <![CDATA[ Matthew 12:3-8 - Do Good On The Sabbath ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/863/t/Matthew-12-3-8-Do-Good-On-The-Sabbath.html
A: The question, Should Christians keep the Sabbath? has been written about a lot. One example of the approach taken by non-Sabbatarians... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Waterrock) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/863 Wed, 07 Sep 2005 22:44:24 GMT