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1. My point is, Jesus didn't "steal" (under your hypothetical situation) in the first place. Yes, The lawmaker must follow his law, BUT, even a human lawmaker has a thorough understanding of the law. How much better of an understanding would God know? A human lawmaker would have a pretty good idea if his actions were legal under the law. Jesus would know perfectly before he acts whether... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (FastHack) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6459 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:35:57 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6458/t/Matthew-5-18-How-Long-Is-the-Law-in-Force-.html#reply-6458

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Religion encysts past mythologies: guesses, hidden assumptions of trust in the universe, pronouncements made in search of personal power, all mingled with shreds of enlightenment. And always an unspoken commandment: Thou shalt not question! We break that commandment daily in the harnessing of human imagination to our deepest... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Malkut) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6458 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:06:09 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6457/t/Matthew-5-18-How-Long-Is-the-Law-in-Force-.html#reply-6457

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I will say for what it is worth that the Pharisees who accused her were guilty of adultery themselves (though they hadnt been caught, Jesus however knows all).
(Matthew 12:38-39)

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Matt. 12:38-39

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Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (One Brow) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6457 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:28:43 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6456/t/Matthew-5-18-How-Long-Is-the-Law-in-Force-.html#reply-6456

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1. The words of a commandment are just that, words. We interpret the text to mean something, God KNOWS what it really means. If the really good reason for violating a commandment is that you're not actually violating it, then yes, it's okay...

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Yes, i see that. THere's a verse prohibiting writing on yourself. Out of any group of christains with tattoos, you'll find various... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Keith and Company) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6456 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:34:40 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6455/t/Matthew-5-18-How-Long-Is-the-Law-in-Force-.html#reply-6455

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You would never hit a girl would you? What if she tried to attack you or someone else with a knife or weapon? If God put in the bible how one should respond in any given situation in accordance with his commandments, the bible would be too long to fathom. Jesus, however, would know exactly what to do in any situation because he knows the laws at their very core.

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i'd be... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (jeff) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6455 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:18:56 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6454/t/Matthew-5-18-How-Long-Is-the-Law-in-Force-.html#reply-6454 1. The words of a commandment are just that, words. We interpret the text to mean something, God KNOWS what it really means. If the really good reason for violating a commandment is that you're not actually violating it, then yes, it's okay...

2. "Or, it's not sinful to violate a commandment as long as you are obey a conflicting commandment.
'Kay."
As quoted before, the GREATEST commandment is "Love the Lord, your God, with all... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Metalsandman999) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6454 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:33:56 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6453/t/Matthew-5-18-How-Long-Is-the-Law-in-Force-.html#reply-6453

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As for Jesus picking fruit on the Sabbath, we must remember that he, as God the Son, knows the true intent of every law perfectly.

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Oh, really? THAT'S GREAT! I have some questions you can pass to Him:

1) Why is it that the Law not only holds children responsible for their actions, but the actions of two people who existed AT THE BEGINNING OF TIME?

2) Why wait... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Malkut) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6453 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:57:52 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6452/t/Matthew-5-18-How-Long-Is-the-Law-in-Force-.html#reply-6452

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As for Jesus picking fruit on the Sabbath, we must remember that he, as God the Son, knows the true intent of every law perfectly. And Ill do you one better; not only did he pick fruit on the Sabbath, he also healed a man's shriveled hand. But Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath, and he pointed out various circumstances when it is okay to work on the Sabbath. In general, its okay when it is of great necessity, he points... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (FastHack) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6452 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:34:44 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6451/t/Matthew-5-18-How-Long-Is-the-Law-in-Force-.html#reply-6451

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That case is simple; the law required two witnesses who were without blame; all the Pharisees who turned her in had entrapped her and therefore were accomplices in the adultery. Therefore, none could bear witness as they took part.

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I don't recall the "without blame" in the Bible, and the entrapment issue is pure speculation on your part. feeds@yuku.com (One Brow) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6451 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:31:11 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6450/t/Matthew-5-18-How-Long-Is-the-Law-in-Force-.html#reply-6450

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When he stayed in that temple "disobeying" his parents (John 2:41-52), he explains his actions perfectly

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So...it's not sinful to violate a commandment as long as you have a really good reason to.
Got it.

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If Gods will and your parents will conflict, you must follow... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Keith and Company) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6450 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:07:09 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6449/t/Matthew-5-18-How-Long-Is-the-Law-in-Force-.html#reply-6449
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-Jesus NEVER sinned. When he stayed in that temple "disobeying" his parents (John 2:41-52), he explains his actions perfectly in Verse 49: "'Why were you searching for me,' he asked. 'Didn't you know I had to be in my Father's house." Firstly, he was obeying his Father, his heavenly Father. Secondly, the greatest commandment is "Love the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Metalsandman999) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6449 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:51:44 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6437/t/Matthew-5-18-How-Long-Is-the-Law-in-Force-.html#reply-6437

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I don't quite see that Christianity is a sequel religion (they seem pretty different to me).

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The Torah prophecized a messiah, Jesus' biographers quoted the Torah to show that he was the Messiah promised.

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Jewish laws come from some certain writtings (Torah mainly), and Messianic prohecies come from... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Keith and Company) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6437 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:24:20 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6436/t/Matthew-5-18-How-Long-Is-the-Law-in-Force-.html#reply-6436
Jewish laws come from some certain writtings (Torah mainly), and Messianic prohecies come from other writtings and I'm not sure they overlap. (Can you give an example within the same author of a Messianic prophecy and a law?). They are bound together for convenience, I guess, but they're... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (franklinmonroe) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6436 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:54:03 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/6435/t/Matthew-5-18-How-Long-Is-the-Law-in-Force-.html#reply-6435

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How then has Jewish law become mandatory for Christians to obey also?

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As 'christain' mainly means 'one who believes the Jewish Messiah has come,' it's pretty clearly a sequel religion. Jewish Laws come from the same book promising a Jewish Messiah. Those that think Jesus was the Christ, fulfilling Messianic Prophecies, would be Christains, nu?

And Jesus is quoted as saying... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Keith and Company) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/6435 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 09:14:35 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/861/t/Matthew-5-18-How-Long-Is-the-Law-in-Force-.html
A: Im going to paint some scenery in the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Waterrock) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/861 Mon, 15 Aug 2005 16:44:12 GMT