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This part doesn't make sense. If he was unfaithful but she wasn't, and then he divorced her, causing her to need to remarry for sustenance, then why wouldn't he be responsible for her pursuit of another man?

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Thinking about it a little more, Matthew 5:32 makes little sense the way you (and the SAB, it would seem) are interpreting it. Without the exception, it basically says if a man divorces his wife he causes her to become an adulterer. So, when you throw the exception in there it says if a man divorces his wife, unless she was unfaithful, causes her to be an adulterer. But if she was unfaithful, wouldn't she already be an... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Diskeyezed) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/17777 Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:02:00 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/17782/t/Matthew-5-32-Grounds-for-Divorce.html#reply-17782
If it is the same event, then different people heard different things, meaning at least there is a contradiction in the transcription of... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (WhatchooTalkinBout) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/17782 Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:52:01 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/17781/t/Matthew-5-32-Grounds-for-Divorce.html#reply-17781

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No; Matthew simply makes explicit what was implicit in Jesus statement.

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I fail to see the qualification implicit in the Mark/Luke version. If Matthew had not put the qualifier in his version, no one would ever suspect that Mark/Luke's rendition would be qualified. The only way to reconcile this is to commit the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (FastHack) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/17781 Sat, 20 Aug 2005 01:20:56 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/17776/t/Matthew-5-32-Grounds-for-Divorce.html#reply-17776
That's a pretty good essay you've got there. At the moment I still disagree with the main idea (that by "porneia" Jesus was referring to inherently unlawful marriage to close relatives), but there doesn't seem to be anything obviously unfeasible about it, and I'll try to investigate the idea further when I have a good opportunity. Thanks for posting.

(The smiley-faces are a result of having the "Use Emoticons" box (to the upper right... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Waterrock) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/17776 Fri, 19 Aug 2005 07:50:53 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/17775/t/Matthew-5-32-Grounds-for-Divorce.html#reply-17775 feeds@yuku.com (OriginalMissJesus) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/17775 Thu, 18 Aug 2005 23:15:54 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/17774/t/Matthew-5-32-Grounds-for-Divorce.html#reply-17774

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First Q: In Matthew 5:32, Jesus says that divorce is permissible when the wife is guilty of fornication. But what if the husband is unfaithful?

A: The text (here in Matthew) does not say. But if one brings Galatians 3:28 into the equation, the result is that an adulterous husband is likewise liable to be divorced.

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As far as I can tell, in Galatians 3:28, Paul is... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (OriginalMissJesus) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/17774 Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:42:47 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/17773/t/Matthew-5-32-Grounds-for-Divorce.html#reply-17773
It does make me wonder how gays getting married affects marriage since heteros have fucked it so bad. How can gays affect something that someone else destroyed in the first place. Maybe heteros are terrified that gays will make a better showing in marriage and make them {heteros} look like total loser ass clowns.

Gays can't get married, "christianity" is on the rise {supposedly} in the US and the divorce rate keeps climbing.... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (raphjd) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/17773 Thu, 18 Aug 2005 14:31:30 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/1809/t/Matthew-5-32-Grounds-for-Divorce.html
A: The text (here in Matthew) does not say. But if one brings Galatians 3:28 into the equation, the result is that an adulterous husband is likewise liable to be divorced.

Second Q: In Matthew 5:32, Jesus names adultery as potential justification for divorce. But in Mark 10:11 and Luke 16:18, Jesus says, Whoever divorces his... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Waterrock) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/1809 Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:04:35 GMT