Matthew 26:52 - Put Away Thy Sword

Re: Matthew 26:52 - Put Away Thy Sword

feeds@yuku.com (Waterrock) — Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:49:40 GMT

REtherman ~

>>> "Where did Jesus say this was his reasoning?" <<<

Right there in Luke 22:37a -- "For I say to you that this which is written must still be accomplished in Me: "And he was numbered with the transgressors.""

Yours in Christ,

Waterrock

Re: Matthew 26:52 - Put Away Thy Sword

feeds@yuku.com (I Newton) — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 15:28:58 GMT

This is to answer the last 3 posts.

Many of your problems with unfulfilled prophecies are that you simply do not understand them. Usually due to the problem of trying to fit religion into the Bible.

And there is no need to get so upset with prophecies of the future. Like it or not the Bible is not just a book of the history of Gods people but of also the future.

Stop getting so bogged down in pseudo-christianity and take the time to study the prophecies for yourself....

Re: Matthew 26:52 - Put Away Thy Sword

feeds@yuku.com (I Newton) — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 15:16:42 GMT

You would be right if Jesus controlled the charges, but he did not. But in other cases he ran from trouble as he knew it was not time for him to be charged. He knew this was the time to be charged and knew it had to take place so did not try and escape. Jesus did not tell him to put his sword away simply because he had to be delivered up for trial but the sword is never to be taken up in any conflict. The soldier that was struck, may, at some time repent and follow Christ. It was different to...

Re: Matthew 26:52 - Put Away Thy Sword

feeds@yuku.com (Rev Etherman) — Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:25:16 GMT

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Regarding Luke 22:36 -- Jesus is here arranging the fulfillment of a prophecy by making sure that the soldiers can keep His trial moving along by noting that His disciples resisted them with weapons

Where did Jesus say this was his reasoning?

If God wanted us to be Atheists we'd be born that way.

Re: Matthew 26:52 - Put Away Thy Sword

feeds@yuku.com (1skybluepink) — Sun, 10 Dec 2006 06:50:20 GMT

Regarding Luke 22:36 -- Jesus is here arranging the fulfillment of a prophecy by making sure that the soldiers can keep His trial moving along by noting that His disciples resisted them with weapons -- thus getting Him classified with criminals, a la Isaiah 53:12, as cited in Luke 22:37. The simple act of brandishing the weapons was sufficient for this, however; when Peter actually used his sword he was going beyond what Jesus had instructed.

That's one theory. I'd call it...

Re: Matthew 26:52 - Put Away Thy Sword

feeds@yuku.com (snickers01) — Sat, 09 Dec 2006 23:44:08 GMT

And if the prophesy should have been fullfilled by today but hasn't, many apologists say it's an "end of the world" prophesy. In other words, a cheap way for them to not ever be wrong. And I still stand by my reasoning that Jesus shouldn't have had to force situations to fullfill prophesy.

Re: Matthew 26:52 - Put Away Thy Sword

feeds@yuku.com (Argy Lacedom) — Sat, 09 Dec 2006 23:33:31 GMT

Prophesy is really a way for god to keep faith with his people. He makes a prophesy and keeps it. In this way he can be seen to be someone to be relied on, someone who has truly supernatural powers. A problem apologists have to deal with is the many unfilfilled prophesies that abound in the bible. The bible then innoculates itself against failed prophesy by claiming that there will be many false prophests and these are not on god's side. A circular argument if ever I heard one....

Re: Matthew 26:52 - Put Away Thy Sword

feeds@yuku.com (snickers01) — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 19:13:46 GMT

[quote]Regarding Luke 22:36 -- Jesus is here arranging the fulfillment of a prophecy by making sure that the soldiers can keep His trial moving along by noting that His disciples resisted them with weapons -- thus getting Him classified with criminals, a la Isaiah 53:12, as cited in Luke 22:37. The simple act of brandishing the weapons was sufficient for this, however; when Peter actually used his sword he was going beyond what Jesus had instructed. [/quote]

I'm sorry, but I don't...

Re: Matthew 26:52 - Put Away Thy Sword

feeds@yuku.com (gystex) — Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:55:10 GMT

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When Jesus said in Matthew 10:34 that He came to bring not peace, but a sword, the sword is a metaphor for separation, not an emblem of armed conflict.

How do you know this? Is there an earlier translation which makes this distinction clear, or is that simply the convenient way to interpret it in order to avoid an obvious contradiction?

Matthew 26:52 - Put Away Thy Sword

feeds@yuku.com (Waterrock) — Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:26:37 GMT

Q: In Matthew 26:52, Jesus tells Peter to put away his sword -- for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Doesnt this contradict other passages? In Matthew 10:34, Jesus said that He came not to bring peace, but a sword, and in Luke 22:36 He tells His disciples, Let him who has no sword sell his garment and buy one. These are conflicting sentiments, to say the least!

A: The answer to this problem partly overlaps what I wrote about Matthew 10:34-36 at...