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Then David gathered all the people together, and went out against Rabbath: and after fighting, he took it. ... And bringing forth the people thereof he sawed them, and drove over them chariots armed with iron: and divided them with knives, and made them pass through brickkilns: so did he to all the cities of the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Steve Wells) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/12033 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:20:35 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/12032/t/Query-for-Steve-Wells.html#reply-12032
I must admit, though, that the brick-kiln phrase is troubling. The verb is `abar, which means pass through and a variety of spins on that phrase, to vanish, to perish, to emigrate, etc.

It's certainly an ambiguous phrase. But my question is - why wouldn't the writer be more specific and less euphemistic? In earlier exploits, David kills 200... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Ba al Zebhubh) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/12032 Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:48:28 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/12031/t/Query-for-Steve-Wells.html#reply-12031 1 Chronicles 20
20:1 And it came to pass, that after the year was expired, at the time that kings go out to battle, Joab led forth the power of the army, and wasted the country of the children of Ammon, and came and besieged Rabbah. But David tarried at Jerusalem. And Joab smote Rabbah, and destroyed it.

20:2 And David took the crown of their king from off his head, and found it to... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (drseinfeld) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/12031 Sun, 07 May 2006 18:14:02 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/12030/t/Query-for-Steve-Wells.html#reply-12030
At the end of the chapter they have this footnote that reads thus:

12:31 Made them labor with saws, picks, and axes and work in the brick kilns or "killed them with saws and iron harrows, and in the brick kilns"

Very interesting that this version says it could go either... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (the drama mama) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/12030 Sat, 06 May 2006 14:40:52 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/12029/t/Query-for-Steve-Wells.html#reply-12029

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And he brought forth the people that were therein, and put them under saws, and under harrows of iron, and under axes of iron, and made them pass through the brick-kiln:

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David made them pass through a brick making oven?

feeds@yuku.com (raphjd) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/12029 Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:29:28 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/1387/t/Query-for-Steve-Wells.html

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12:29 And David gathered all the people together, and went to Rabbah, and fought against it, and took it.
12:30 And he took their king's crown from off his head, the weight whereof was a talent of gold with the precious stones: and it was set on David's head. And he brought forth the spoil of the city in great abundance.
12:31 feeds@yuku.com (Burning Stake) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/1387 Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:00:09 GMT