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        <![CDATA[ Q:  In Matthew 2:17-18, Jeremiah 31:15 is used to describe the mourning of the mothers of the slaughtered male infants of Bethlehem.  In the context of Jeremiah 31, though, Rachel is representative of women from the southern part of the Northern Kingdom whose children had been killed or taken into exile as/after the Assyrians destroyed Samaria.  (Rachel was the mother of Joseph and Benjamin.)   So, how is that relevant to what happened in Bethlehem centuries later?A:  Although Matthew only... ]]>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>There were a couple of other &quot;events&quot; in The Bible that never happened either. The Deluge was one of them (actually the Epic of Gilgamesh) and the Exodus was another, because there never was an Egyptian captivity period. No captivity, ergo no Exodus.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Probably 95% of what the Bible says happened never actually happened. David never had an empire (if he... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Herod's slaughter never happened. Matthew wasn't using the slaughter in a historical sense, but in a typological sense. It was a fictional event used to draw an allusion to the slaughter in Jeremiah.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>There were a couple of other &quot;events&quot; in The Bible that never happened either.  The Deluge was one of them (actually the Epic of Gilgamesh) and the Exodus was another,... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Herod's slaughter never happened. Matthew wasn't using the slaughter in a historical sense, but in a typological sense. It was a fictional event used to draw an allusion to the slaughter in Jeremiah. <div class='signature'>If God wanted us to be Atheists we'd be born that way.</div> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ The language that Matthew uses, &quot;fulfilled that which was spoken,&quot; clearly shows that he is presenting the slaughter as a fulfillment of predictive prophecy, not a typological pattern. ]]></description>

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