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        <![CDATA[ Q:  In Matthew 8:32, Jesus completes an exorcism by ordering some demons out of a man, and into a herd of swine.  The whole herd of swine proceed run violently down the steep place at Gergesa into the sea, and perish in the water.  Those poor pigs!  It was unfair of Jesus to allow the demons to take possession of the pigs.  Couldnt Jesus, as the omnipotent God Incarnate, have simply made the demons go away, without involving the herd of pigs?  This just seems unkind to the pigs.A:  First,... ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 8:32 - The Gergesene Swine ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ [quote]First, Jesus was not omnipotent during His ministry. (Nor was He omniscient; right here in this story, he asks a question -- What is your name?. [/quote]<br><br>So it's not wrong of me to say that it was impossible, if he even existed, to have died on the cross, destroyed eternal death, and rose again for all humanity? ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 8:32 - The Gergesene Swine ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Oh, forgive him, he's a christian so he is most likely taught to accept cruelty for animals if you only have some purpose in doing that, and if it is such a divine purpose... <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END-->   And think about it different way - it could've been worse if you consider how the fact that no one lives forever would've worked if Waterrock had been Muslim. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>For the fig tree example, why didn't Jesus make the out of season fig tree bear fruit and provide food for Himself and others (like he did in John 6 with the bread and fish) as the miracle, showing how Israel's naughty moral state (represented by the dead fruitless tree) can be invigorated by God's love?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>It's possible, maybe even likely, that the fig tree represents Rome.... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ &quot;First, Jesus was not omnipotent during His ministry.&quot;<br><br>Jesus' abilities were not limited.  He said,<br>&quot;all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive&quot; (Matt. 21:22), including the ability to demonstrate an effective metaphor (if that's not the desperate <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>ad hoc</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> attempt that it appears to be) without killing food sources like pigs and fig trees (let alone the issue of unnecessary... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Waterrock said:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Nor was He omniscient; right here in this story, he asks a question -- What is your name?.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Yark responded:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Wait a minute. If we can conclude that Jesus was not omniscient because he asked a question that makes him look like he is not omniscient, can we conclude that god is... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Nor was He omniscient; right here in this story, he asks a question -- What is your name?. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->Wait a minute. If we can conclude that Jesus was not omniscient because he asked a question that makes him look like he is not omniscient, can we conclude that god is not omniscient since he asked in the garden of Eden &quot;where are my bratty offspring?&quot;<!--EZCODE QUOTE... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The chain of events would be obvious: the demons had left the man and entered the pigs. Without the pigs in the equation, the townspeoples default assumption would have been that the man was only temporarily calm, but not necessarily cleansed. /With/ the pigs in the equation, though, combined with the testimony of the eyewitnesses, the only explanation for the dead pigs was a truly de-demonized man.<hr></blockquote><br><br>So when the pigs died... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ So the cruelty to the pigs was intended, rather than pointless? They were expendible in order to prove a point. That makes it worse. By your account, Jesus didn't merely mis-managed his magic into the first thing that come along - but it was predetermined.<br><br>Thank you for explaining <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>reason</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> for the cruelty. But it was still cruelty and unfair. <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Do you... ]]></description>

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