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        <![CDATA[ Q:  Was it detrimental (to morality) for Matthew to mention Judah and Tamar in Jesus' genealogy, since Judah and Tamar had intimate relations out of wedlock? A:  No.  Genesis 38 tells how Tamar, after Judah had refused to marry her off to his youngest son -- because he supposed that Tamar was just bad luck, since her first and second husbands (Judahs firstborn and second-born sons) had died -- disguised herself as a harlot and offered herself to Judah, who accepted the offer, not knowing who... ]]>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Yes, this certainly was Augustine of Hippo.  Don't ask me how I missed this post, but I somehow did.<div class='signature'><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><br><br>Often a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other parts of the world, about the motions and orbits of the stars and even their sizes and distances, . . . and this knowledge he holds with certainty from reason and experience. It is thus offensive and disgraceful for an unbeliever to... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ RCSCWC ~<br><br>Not that it has anything to do with the price of tea in China, but, yes, I think Malkut's quotation is from the writings of Saint Augustine of Hippo.<br><br>There was/is another Saint Augustine -- Augustine of Canterbury, the great missionary to England (who wasn't really the very first Christian missionary there, but that's another story).  But Augustine of Hippo wrote a lot more and had a much greater influence on the shape of Roman Catholic theology, especially where the... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: A Christian Response - Matthew 1:3 ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Is it the same fellow who is of Hippo ?? St. Augustine of Hippo ?? ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Sheesh, such sarcasm!<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Hang around long enough, and you shall learn that I am a creature powered by sarcasm.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>What's so wrong with discussion of interesting theories?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>What's wrong with reading alternate realities and comic book storylines into the... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>That's too logical and biblical, and not ranty enough.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Are you saying that waterrock should write as badly as me? A terrible thought!<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Be sure to mention the theory held by the twelve members of an obscure sect...<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Sheesh, such sarcasm! What's so wrong with... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Nicely Put.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>God is not averse to using flawed individuals to carry out His plans<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Or flawed individuals to carry out the scribing of his words.<div class='signature'>---- <br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4254/australia3mu.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Such is the way of superstition, whether in... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>A: No. Genesis 38 tells how Tamar, after Judah had refused to marry her off to his youngest son -- because he supposed that Tamar was just bad luck, since her first and second husbands (Judahs firstborn and second-born sons) had died -- disguised herself as a harlot and offered herself to Judah, who accepted the offer, not knowing who the woman was. But Matthew is not endorsing immorality by the simple statement that... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Q:  Was it detrimental (to morality) for Matthew to mention Judah and Tamar in Jesus' genealogy, since Judah and Tamar had intimate relations out of wedlock? <br><br>A:  No.  Genesis 38 tells how Tamar, after Judah had refused to marry her off to his youngest son -- because he supposed that Tamar was just bad luck, since her first and second husbands (Judahs firstborn and second-born sons) had died -- disguised herself as a harlot and offered herself to Judah, who accepted the offer, not... ]]></description>

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