Matthew 27:45, 51-53 - Darkness Over All the Land http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/1245/t/Matthew-27-45-51-53-Darkness-Over-All-the-Land.html en-us Copyright 2006, Yuku feeds@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:36:46 GMT Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:54:08 GMT Yuku Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 Yuku http://static.yuku.com//feed/bypass/images/button-yuku.png http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/1245/t/Matthew-27-45-51-53-Darkness-Over-All-the-Land.html Yuku - free hosted forums and profiles 88 31 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:45, 51-53 - Darkness Over All the Land ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/42831/t/Matthew-27-45-51-53-Darkness-Over-All-the-Land.html#reply-42831 If that were the case it would seem odd then that only saints' bodies should be exposed due to an earthquake, and not the hundreds and thousands on non-saints. Obviously it sounds more like something happening exclusively to holy types.

that's a good point. i hadn't thought of that.
 ]]> feeds@yuku.com (jeff) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/42831 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:54:08 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:45, 51-53 - Darkness Over All the Land ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/42830/t/Matthew-27-45-51-53-Darkness-Over-All-the-Land.html#reply-42830 "In case I wasn't altogether clear, one of the points of my post was that the statement about the bodies of the Jerusalem saints being "raised" didn't necessarily mean that they were resurrected (contra the NIV's paraphrase, "raised to life" -- the words "to life" aren't in the Greek text); it is capable of meaning that the saints' bodies were exposed to view from observers on the surface."
If... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (abamforth) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/42830 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:13:26 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:45, 51-53 - Darkness Over All the Land ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/10848/t/Matthew-27-45-51-53-Darkness-Over-All-the-Land.html#reply-10848
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Why can't Waterrock just admit that the writer of Matthew intended to infer (imply) that the body of the saints were risen to life and people saw them?
Because if it was a literal, historical event, then one has to ask why no one else ever mentioned it.

Why there's no record of Pilate asking Rome... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Keith and Company) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/10848 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 05:19:04 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:45, 51-53 - Darkness Over All the Land ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/10847/t/Matthew-27-45-51-53-Darkness-Over-All-the-Land.html#reply-10847 feeds@yuku.com (Celsus) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/10847 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 05:03:17 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:45, 51-53 - Darkness Over All the Land ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/10846/t/Matthew-27-45-51-53-Darkness-Over-All-the-Land.html#reply-10846
WR: "Yes. The author plainly refers to two separate events: one happening concurrently with the earthquake, and another not taking place unto after Jesus' own arising."

The phrase "after his resurrection" is considered by many biblical scholars as an... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Franciscan Monkey) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/10846 Sat, 11 Feb 2006 13:49:37 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:45, 51-53 - Darkness Over All the Land ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/10845/t/Matthew-27-45-51-53-Darkness-Over-All-the-Land.html#reply-10845
FM: "So, are you categorically denying that the saints were raised and appeared physically to many in Jerusalem?"

Yes. (Even though I wouldn't say that such an interpretation can be disproven, if you're asking me if I think that Matthew intended to say that the dead bodies of saints got out of their tombs and walked around the earthly city of Jerusalem and appeared to many people, my answer is no.) The bodies of some of the saints in Jerusalem... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Waterrock) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/10845 Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:47:10 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:45, 51-53 - Darkness Over All the Land ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/10844/t/Matthew-27-45-51-53-Darkness-Over-All-the-Land.html#reply-10844
feeds@yuku.com (Franciscan Monkey) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/10844 Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:59:47 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:45, 51-53 - Darkness Over All the Land ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/10843/t/Matthew-27-45-51-53-Darkness-Over-All-the-Land.html#reply-10843
FM: ... "certainly he [Josephus] would have mentioned formerly dead people arising out of their graves and walking around a city, don't you think? That hardly falls under the "earthquake and meteorological phenomena" category."

In case I wasn't altogether clear, one of the points of my post was that the statement about the bodies of the Jerusalem saints being "raised" didn't necessarily mean that they were resurrected (contra the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Waterrock) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/10843 Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:09:43 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:45, 51-53 - Darkness Over All the Land ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/10842/t/Matthew-27-45-51-53-Darkness-Over-All-the-Land.html#reply-10842 maybe not 3 hours of darkness, but certainly he would have mentioned formerly dead people arising out of their graves and walking around a city, don't you think? That hardly falls under the "earthquake and meteorological phenomena" category.

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One could similarly say that very many... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Franciscan Monkey) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/10842 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:59:42 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Matthew 27:45, 51-53 - Darkness Over All the Land ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/reply/10841/t/Matthew-27-45-51-53-Darkness-Over-All-the-Land.html#reply-10841 feeds@yuku.com (2fleas) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/sreply/10841 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:18:57 GMT <![CDATA[ Matthew 27:45, 51-53 - Darkness Over All the Land ]]> http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/1245/t/Matthew-27-45-51-53-Darkness-Over-All-the-Land.html
A: (Thats... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Waterrock) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/1245 Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:36:46 GMT