Science and History

the grass snake of Paul

feeds@yuku.com (twillight) — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:27:54 GMT

Yes, not a snake, but a grass snake, according to its behaviour: it fastens around Paul's wrist, it hangs from its arm, it is attached for a relativly long time. Just what you'd expect from a grass snake - but not from a viper.
A viper bits you, then draws back immediatelly. The grabing-twisting-hanging from you trhing is the grass snakes' attribute.

As on Malta there are no venomous vipers this is most likely anyway, and the venom-threat idea is just a fictionous...

Primates

feeds@yuku.com (psychoboy) — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:38:47 GMT

I have a question for people who refuse to accept evolution. There is a taxonomical order called "primates". It includes humans, chimpanzees, lemurs and several other types of animals. So, are humans primates? And is your answer consistent with science?

Believers, give us some bible science ...

feeds@yuku.com (Argy Lacedom) — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 04:56:10 GMT

I've just come from another board where an apologist has claimed that the bible does not contradict science. It gives me the shits when I hear that. Instead of reacting in my normal way by posting lists of scientific absurdities in the bible I've decided to tackle this a different way.

If there are any biblical apologists out there I would like you to list all the occasions where the bible actually agrees with science. I can't think of any other than the obvious ones...

Darics?

feeds@yuku.com (psychoboy) — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:51:44 GMT

Is there an apologetic response to the bible's claim (in I Chronicles) that Darics were used to fund David's temple, even though Darius (the Persian king for whom Darics are named) did not exist until 500 years later? I can imagine the argument that perhaps the chronicler was writing 500 years after the fact, and was using contemporary currency in his telling of the story. However, it seems somewhat self-defeating, because it is admitting that the Chronicles are based not on...

Revelation 1:16 (Seven Stars)

feeds@yuku.com (Daystar) — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 15:19:19 GMT

Revelation 1:16 - [SAB] Jesus holds seven stars in his hand. Of course, it is possible that this is metaphorical. Perhaps. But it is clear from other verses (6:13, 8:10, 12:4) that John thought of stars as being small, perhaps even small enough for Jesus to hold in his hand.

Response: The meaning of the seven stars is explained in verse 20. "The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are...

Revelation 1:7 (Flat Earth)

feeds@yuku.com (Daystar) — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:33:44 GMT

[SAB] "He cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him."

Everyone will see Jesus descend from the sky. Such an event would only be possible on a flat earth.

Response: It wouldn't be possible for everyone to see Jesus descend from the sky on a flat earth, either. Not for those who were more than a short distance away, or on the other side of mountains or trees or in houses. The Greek word parousia literally means "being...

Can the leopard hide its spots?

feeds@yuku.com (twillight) — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 09:41:53 GMT

Jeremiah 13:23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

Well, Michael Jackson could change his skin-colour, but I bet Jeremiah don't talk about him, lol
Anyway, what's that stupid thing about the leopards?

Bats are birds - with reference!

feeds@yuku.com (twillight) — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:25:03 GMT

Now you remeber they always told "the scripture says they are winged animals!", do you? That's true enough for Leviticus, but what in Deutoronomy?
Now we can refute the Bible with a simple resonse, directly from the Bible, no question, no interpretationmistake, no fuckin' nothing the believers can refute!

14:11 Of all clean bird

The eye and its engineering.

feeds@yuku.com (wickle) — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:35:23 GMT
I`m dealing with a staunch creationist, who believes that humans were created perfect.
Can anyone explain the very basics of the 'bad engineering' with vertibrates eyes, and how , had it been engineered better , what benifits humans would have in thier everyday life. (all , in a way , a 5 year old would understand): )

The Molten Sea

feeds@yuku.com (Rambo123UK) — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:46:37 GMT
Over at Bible Babble we have been discussing this subject, and it occurred to me to calculate the volume of the vessel.

Please can someone check my working out:

phe8zero wrote:
1Ki 7:23 And he made a casted sea of ten cubits from brim to brim; it was round all about. And its...

Not just Moses can turn gold to dust...

feeds@yuku.com (twillight) — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:35:45 GMT
...but Hilkiah too.

23:4 And the king commanded Hilkiah the high priest, and the priests of the second order, and the keepers of the door, to bring forth out of the temple of the LORD all the vessels that were made for Baal, and for the grove, and for all the host of heaven: and he http://www.youtube.com/wa...QBsc&feature=related

Lions in the snow

feeds@yuku.com (twillight) — Sat, 30 May 2009 13:01:20 GMT
2 Samuel 23:20 And Benaiah the son of Jehoiada, the son of a valiant man, of Kabzeel, who had done many acts, he slew two lionlike men of Moab: he went down also and slew a lion in the midst of a pit in time of snow:

So this verse just told us, that he lived in a terrain where snow fell regularly, what means in winter the temperature is at least very close to zero.
It also tells there lived lions. But...

Do skeptics overestimate the importance of science and education?

feeds@yuku.com (wickle) — Mon, 11 May 2009 14:48:12 GMT

Daystar - Your questions are presumptuous. You overestimate the importance of science and education, you fail to see their limits. You become your enemy.

Wickle - This what the sword and tools are for , daystar. The battle against dumbing people down, for any reason

Daystar
Charles Darwin

On this date in 1809, Charles Darwin was born in England. He prepared for the Church at Cambridge, but his passion was natural history. During his work as a naturalist for the Beagle, he began...