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			<title><![CDATA[ Fire And Torment (Revelation 20:9-10) ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ This post is in response to the SAB Revelation 20:9-10, listed as Injustice # 41, Cruelty &amp; Violence # 49, and Interpretation # 10
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The SAB - God will send fire from heaven to devour people. And the devil will be tormented &quot;day and night for ever and ever.&quot;
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Satan has been released and has assembled an army, they surround the holy ones and God defends them by reigning fire down upon them. In Chapters 38 and 39 of
Ezekiel Gog, also later mentioned in Revelation... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Revelation 1:18 (Keys Of Hell And Death) ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <strong>3. Revelation 1:18 - I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death
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[SAB] <em>&quot;I [Jesus] ... have the keys of hell and of death.&quot;</em>
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Response:</strong> Listed under cruelty and violence. That is odd to me. Jesus having the keys to hell (from the Greek haides, meaning the unseen resting place
of the dead) and death itself indicates that he will take away death and raise the dead from... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Revelation 21:8 ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <strong>Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars,
shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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[SAB] &quot;The lake which burneth with fire and brimstone&quot;
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All liars, as well as those who are fearful or unbelieving, will be cast into &quot;the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone.&quot;
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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:24:06 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ God's Denial of Cruelties? ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Hello, everyone.  This is my first post on this board.  I&#39;ve been kind of lurking around here for quite some time, but didn&#39;t decide to register until
this topic came to mind one night.  And you&#39;ll have to forgive me if I&#39;m a bit dumb with this software as I&#39;m used to softwares like Invision Power
Board and phpBB.
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Anyway!  I was recalling what I&#39;d read of the Bible for most of my life when I began to wonder... has God ever denied that what he does is cruel... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:30:23 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Writing an article ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Writing an two part essay right now, which could be useful to the SA_.  The intended purpose, at first, was a condemnation of the war in Iraq.  However, the
first part is turning into an examination of various worldview&#39;s definition of murder/killing.  Is there any publication out there that is interested in
reading it; and, perhaps to publish this behemoth?
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Thanks a million,
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Phoenix
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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:46:56 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Brutal laws to ensure purity? ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I just watched a youtube video where a christian defended the many death penalty laws of the Old Testament with the logic that these laws were made to ensure
purity in Israel so a Messiah would be born to save the world. Therefore, if anyone was being disobedient they were jeopardizing this mission and it was right
to put them to death so the Messianic bloodline wouldn&#39;t be compromised. In the christian&#39;s words thank goodness God made it so these people would be
killed so the world... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 13:46:05 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Abraham and Isaac ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Regarding the story of Abraham and Isaac, Steve Wells writes:
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  Abraham shows his willingness to kill his son for God. Only an evil God would ask a father to do that; only a bad father would be willing to do it.
</blockquote>Playing Christian&#39;s Advocate for a moment...
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If you really do believe in the afterlife, and why wouldn&#39;t you if Yahweh were speaking to you directly and presumably telling you about it, than life is
fairly trivial.  Death becomes... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Can We Make It So That I ... ]]></title>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Cruelty And Violence - Genesis ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I didn't think about it at the time but I should have posted this here instead of the General board.<br><br><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><br><br>I have started on the Cruelty And Violence Response - I am not going to have as much time to work on it as I thought I would today, but ... just to get an idea here are the first couple points.<br><br><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><br><br>SAB - 1. Because God liked Abel's animal sacrifice more than Cain's... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Slay Jesus' Enemies ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I would just like to show that the so called &quot;Prince of Peace&quot; is actually quite the opposite and that it is quite easy to see how Chriatians today and in the past could follow his dictates and end up commiting great cruelty and violence.<br><br>Here is Luke 19:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>19:10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost. <br>19:11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable,... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Quontir)</author>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 08:19:14 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Book of Job - cruelty or what? ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I'm interested to hear what people think of the story of Job. I'm not looking to just snipe at the Bible/Christians/Jews but I find this book to be one of the most disturbing bits of scripture I've come across.<br>Cases in point:<br>1. God allows himself to be goaded by Satan into allowing Job's torture. This is disturbing for what it says about God's vulnerability to peer pressure. Besides, God's supposed to love us. What parent would subject their child to staggering loss &amp; misery just... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:50:17 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ God's Cruelty? ]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:42:23 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ &quot;covered&quot; or &quot;uncovered&quot;? ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ In the &quot;Cruelty and Violence&quot; section for the book of Numbers, #130 reads:<br><br>&quot;Don't touch or &quot;go in to see when the holy things are covered.&quot; God kills people who touch or look at uncovered holy things. 4:15, 4:20&quot;<br><br>Shouldn't that read &quot;covered&quot; rather than &quot;uncovered&quot;? ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 09:50:12 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ OT question, help! ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ [b]Isn't it somewhere in the OT that god commands the killing of anyone or group who does not believe in him? I mean, I know he had "certain" people do his deeds for him, but did he make this a law for ALL people from that time on? [/b] ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:47:18 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Brucker defends the god of Exodus ]]></title>
			<link>http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/1302/t/Brucker-defends-the-god-of-Exodus.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ If you haven't already noticed, Brucker is back and he's working on Exodus. Be sure to see his defense of the the god's murder of the firstborn Egyptians. You can find a link at the bottom of the SAB's Exodus 11 page. Or click <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://reannotated.blogspot.com/2006/05/plague-shall-not-be-upon-you-to.html">here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><div class='signature'>Steve Wells</div> ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (Steve Wells)</author>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 09:28:34 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ What the Bible says about Manifest Destiny ]]></title>
			<link>http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/1309/t/What-the-Bible-says-about-Manifest-Destiny.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Exodus 23<br>30 By little and little I will drive them out from before thee, until thou be increased, and inherit the land.<br><br>Judges 11<br>21 And the LORD God of Israel delivered Sihon and all his people into the hand of Israel, and they smote them: so Israel possessed all the land of the Amorites, the inhabitants of that country.<br>22 And they possessed all the coasts of the Amorites, from Arnon even unto Jabbok, and from the wilderness even unto Jordan. <br>23 So now the LORD God of... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (NeoNeanderthal)</author>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 20:50:23 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Judges: 19-21 ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ The story does not exist in isolation.  If one reads the entire chapter book one discovers that the whole social fabric of Israelite society is decaying as time goes along.  This parallels the experience of the first 9 chapters of Genesis where the world goes to hell in a handbasket and God decides to wipe it out with a flood.<br>Capter 19 begins with noting there was no King in Israel in those days.  Chapter 21 ends noting that there was no king in Israel and everyone did as he thought... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@yuku.com (William Laud)</author>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 09:11:34 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Biblical Cloning ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Genesis<br>2:21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;<br> 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.<br> 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. <br><br>Without Adams permission God knocks him out, takes one of Adams rids and makes a female... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:16:24 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Matthew 27:25 - His Blood Be On Us ... ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Q:  Matthew 27:25 records the Jewish crowd in Jerusalem crying out, His blood be on us, and on our children.  This verse blames the Jews for the death of Jesus and has been used to justify their persecution for twenty centuries.<br><br>A:  It doesnt blame the Jews. It reports the statement of the crowd-members.  They credited themselves with Jesus death, imagining that they were executing a false teacher.  But as the New Testament narrative proceeds to show, quite a few people in Jerusalem,... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:05:28 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Matthew 25:30 - The Banishment of the Bad Steward ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Q:  In Matthew 25:30, Jesus concludes a parable by picturing a master telling his servants to cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness where there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.  This is cruel.<br><br>A:  The scene in a courtroom, when a guilty murderer is sentenced to death or triple-life incarceration, may appear cruel if the murderer manipulates the emotions of visitors freshly introduced to the case.  But the judge in such a case is not necessarily cruel.  Similarly,... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 09:42:54 GMT</pubDate>
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