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64: "They did also carry with them deseret, which, by interpretation, is a honey bee."
There were no honey bees in the New World before they were introduced by Europeans in the 17th century. (Wikipedia: Origin and distribution of the genus Apis)... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Zakuska) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3555 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:24:51 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3556/t/Contradiction-Ether-3-19-vs-Mormon-7-28-more.html
Yes:
Ether 3:19, 13
"[the brother of Jacob] knew that it was the finger of the Lord; and he had faith no longer, for he knew, nothing doubting...behold, the Lord showed himself unto him, and said: Because thou knowest these things ye are redeemed from the fall;"

No:
Mormon 7:38
"For no man can be saved, according to the words of Christ, save they shall have faith in his name."

Moroni 10:21
"neither... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Dmar198) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3556 Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:10:20 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3557/t/Contradiction-2-Nephi-5-21-vs-2-Nephi-26-33.html 2 Nephi 5:21
"And he [God] had caused the cursing to come upon them...wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Dmar198) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3557 Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:53:27 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3552/t/Contradiction-1-Nephi-1-3-more-vs-Alma-10-5-more.html
Yes, everything in it is assured and true:

1 Nephi 14:30
"the things which I have written are true. And thus it is. Amen."
1 Nephi 22:30
"I would that ye should consider that the things which have been written upon the plates of brass are true;"
Mosiah 1:6
"O my sons, I would that ye... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Dmar198) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3552 Mon, 16 Apr 2007 09:10:21 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3558/t/Contradiction-Alma-7-8-and-more-vs-Enos-1-6-and-more.html
Yes, God can do anything:

1 Nephi 7:12
"Yea, and how is it that ye have forgotten that the Lord is able to do all things according to his will,"
Alma 7:8
"the Lord God hath power to do all things which are according to his word."
Ether 3:4
"And I know, O Lord, that thou hast all power, and can do whatsoever thou wilt for the benefit of man;"

No, there are some things that God is unable to do:

Enos... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Dmar198) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3558 Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:23:49 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3560/t/Contradiction-2-Nephi-3-3-Mormon-5-5.html "And now, Joseph, my last-born, whom I have brought out of the wilderness of mine afflictions, may the Lord bless thee forever, for thy seed shall not utterly be destroyed."
In Mormon 5:5, Joseph's seed (the Nephites) are destroyed.
"And it came to pass that whatsoever lands we had passed by, and the inhabitants thereof were not gathered in, were destroyed by the Lamanites, and their... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Dmar198) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3560 Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:12:53 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3559/t/Contradiction-Alma-13-25-1-Nephi-10-4.html "And now we only wait to hear the joyful news declared unto us by the mouth of angels, of his coming; for the time cometh, we know not how soon."
1 Nephi 10:4 was written to them, however, saying that it would be in 600 years.
"Yea, even six hundred years from the time that my father left Jerusalem, a prophet would the Lord God raise up among the Jews -- even a Messiah, or, in other words, a Savior of... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Dmar198) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3559 Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:49:01 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3561/t/Contradictions.html Are we allowed to make suggestions for contradictions in the Book of Mormon?
If so, is this the place to do it?
Also, are you going to do 3-part contradictions?
(An example of a 3-part Contradiction is the classic God, Love, and Jealousy conundrum that goes:
1 John 4:8 - God is love
1 Cor. 13:4 - Love is not jealous
Exodus 20:5 - God is jealous) ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Dmar198) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3561 Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:05:12 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3563/t/annotation-suggestion-3Nephi-11-21.html
I've read the entire book of Mormon, and this verse throws me for a loop. 3rd Nephi, 11:21

Didn't Nephi already have the power to baptize? Wasn't he running around in previous chapters baptizing the faithful? Or at least, he clearly had the power to work miracles in God's name.

Further reading in this chapter brings the question... why do these people all need to be baptized if they're... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Measure76) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3563 Tue, 06 Feb 2007 14:37:04 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3565/t/Mormon-underwear-.html Mormons wear weird underwear??? I read it in another post.
Please explain. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Refits) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3565 Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:26:25 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3562/t/What-s-the-deal-with-Mormons-and-poop-.html
I'm not kidding.

Apparently, the local college (VCU) has a great dental school, and since there's an LDS church a couple of blocks away, I guess my area just made sense for them. You wouldn't believe all the Utah plates around.

Anyways, three of the four families recently gave birth to babies as part of Joseph Smith's grand plan to perpetuate the cult, or have their families become... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ety3) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3562 Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:40:48 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3566/t/The-Mormon-s-definition-of-grace.html
Romans 11:6 (ESV) "But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace."

2 Nephi... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ooymand) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3566 Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:51:48 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3547/t/Why-do-morons-er-mormons-go-door-to-door-.html
Anyway, I was wondering: Why do morons go door to door? Um, I mean mormons. Is... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Yark Hutprancer) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3547 Sat, 04 Nov 2006 17:07:00 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3564/t/Thanks-for-the-link.html
Outside of a few other blogs, and blog lists, this is the first non blog/discussion board to link to me.

Made my day.

Thanks ]]> feeds@yuku.com (gunnerclark) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3564 Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:26:04 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3567/t/Zoram-wasn-t-trampled.html [link=http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/alma/cr_list.html newwindow]Cruelty&Violence in Alma[/link]


30:56 And it came to pass that the curse was not taken off of Korihor; but he was cast out, and went about from house to house begging for his food.
30:57 Now the knowledge of what had happened unto Korihor was immediately published throughout all... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Korihor) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3567 Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:38:40 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3551/t/Abraham-David-Solomon-Polygamy-Justified-or-not-.html

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Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Ba al Zebhubh) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3551 Wed, 21 Jun 2006 19:37:42 GMT http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3568/t/Why-do-gays-and-Gay-Rights-advocates-hate-polygamists-.html examples
Patric O'Reilly
Southern Poverty Law Center
News Networks
Book of Mormon sceptics ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Dougtheavenger) http://sabdiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/3568 Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:11:21 GMT